Curse

therangereminem · Aug 18, 2009, 10:35 PM // 22:35

well i was totally bummed out sence no aiont his coming weekend and so on and so on. but then just check doudble fame weekend now i have a reason to play guildwars , been trying to get back into pvp sence i took over 1 1/2 break from it .

Ugh · Aug 18, 2009, 10:37 PM // 22:37

How dull.

u_u

Zzes Tyan · Aug 18, 2009, 11:19 PM // 23:19

yay more noobs complaining about not being able to get into groups...

cognophile · Aug 18, 2009, 11:23 PM // 23:23

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Originally Posted by Zzes Tyan

yay more noobs complaining about not being able to get into groups...

yay more complaining

The Air Revenger · Aug 18, 2009, 11:25 PM // 23:25

LET ME IN YOUR GROOP I IS GOOOD!!!!!one11!!!!1

boooo HA weekend

s t e e · Aug 18, 2009, 11:40 PM // 23:40

It is called Guild Wars for a reason. Make or join a pvp ha guild and you have a team enough said.

refer · Aug 18, 2009, 11:52 PM // 23:52

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Originally Posted by s t e e

Make or join a pvp ha guild and you have a team enough said.

Just talk. Everybody thinks you're a scrub/noob with no rank so nobody takes you. Then there is the reality of HA's outpost being *crickets*.

YunSooJin · Aug 18, 2009, 11:56 PM // 23:56

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Originally Posted by refer

Just talk. Everybody thinks you're a scrub/noob with no rank so nobody takes you. Then there is the reality of HA's outpost being *crickets*.

maybe cause you are a scrub/noob with no rank..
owait

zelgadissan · Aug 18, 2009, 11:59 PM // 23:59

Normally I look forward to this but I don't think I can possibly convince myself to play in this sway shitpile.

Dallcingi · Aug 19, 2009, 12:18 AM // 00:18

yessssssssss this is great

Fate Crusher · Aug 19, 2009, 12:40 AM // 00:40

Oh god... this post is really unnecessary but whatever.

You're bad if you can't beat a generic sway team. :3

Gift3d · Aug 19, 2009, 12:41 AM // 00:41

I'm gonna keep count of how many times i hear "wand trappers" and "fire shields" in pug groups this weekend haha.

It's a good thing though, because right now the meta (sway) is 10 times easier to beat than iway and heroway were, which is saying a lot. GOGOGO R10

Master Ketsu · Aug 19, 2009, 12:52 AM // 00:52

Imo the real problem with rank discrimination is not the discrimination itself, but the way rank works. Rank is based on experience and grind, not actual scores/leaderboards like most other competitive games have.

Ive been in the game industry for 5 years so far, and I can say with certainty that a linear experience system is a terrible way to measure player skill. I've seen QA testers play a game for 10 minutes and be better at it then most vets who had been playing it for 6 months. This is not a rare occurance, I've seen it happen literally hundreds of times. It is also pretty much universally agreed upon by any and all serious competitive gamers I have met ( Starcraft champions, top CS clan members, ect. ) That a linear exp point system is laughable and proves nothing.

While it is true that an experienced player is more likely to be good then a newer player, it is by no means a guarantee. That is the real problem behind rank. There is nothing wrong with good players wanting to play with good players, but it's extremely unfair to the few rank1's/2's out there who are better then r9's to get shafted just because anet failed to implement a good system, and the community is too stupid to realize it.

bursta91 · Aug 19, 2009, 01:05 AM // 01:05

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Originally Posted by Master Ketsu

rank1's/2's out there who are better then r9's

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Winterclaw · Aug 19, 2009, 01:08 AM // 01:08

I'm at rank 0 and too pro to get anything else.

chowmein69 · Aug 19, 2009, 01:14 AM // 01:14

yay double sway weekend

Master Ketsu · Aug 19, 2009, 01:18 AM // 01:18

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How would I prove that they are better than average r9's?

Thats the problem. I could name 3 just in my alliance alone that I have played with who have barely any fame at all, but are very competent players who refuse to HA because they don't want to deal with having to leave their guild and join an HA guild to grind for fame ( or just dislike HA ). But how would I prove that other than making a video? The only real way to know if someone is good if they have no rank is to play with them.

IMO its a pretty well accepted fact amoung non-braindead players that there are plenty of bad R9's out there. People who Lamewayed their way to the top are hardly any better than they were when starting out.

Really though. Due to the fact that an exp/grind system is a faulty skill measure you can reach the conclusion that there will be some players at lower levels who are better than the higher levels through a very simple act known as contemplating your navel.

bursta91 · Aug 19, 2009, 01:30 AM // 01:30

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Originally Posted by Master Ketsu

plenty of bad R9's out there. People who Lamewayed their way to the top are hardly any better than they were when starting out.

so true, it is hard to tell now that after so many double weekends who is good and who is bad.

Im not gonna lie there are smart unranked people but they also come from other areas of the game where they learned not to suck too hard and arent complete idiots.

BLOODGOAT · Aug 19, 2009, 04:00 AM // 04:00

I don't know what I dislike more. Double Fame Weekend or that therangereminem is posting again.

Kamatsu · Aug 19, 2009, 04:08 AM // 04:08

As there seems little actual discussion.. and just a lot of namecalling, insulting, "being 1337" and other nonsense..

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